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welcome back everyone i hope you had a

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good break a good time for networking

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uh it's a pleasure to welcome you back

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to our next session which is going to be

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on healing pk and subtle energies

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my name is mark crewson and i am the

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chair of the monroe institute's outreach

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leadership council

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it's my great pleasure

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to be your host for this session and i'd

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like to introduce you a little bit

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to our

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speaker

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who is going to give a video

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presentation

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the speaker is john cruth he's the

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executive director of the ryan research

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center in durham north carolina his

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research interests include psychokinesis

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bio energy and healing

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physical correlations with sci

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and near and dear to my own heart the

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application of potentially useful psy

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technologies

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uh rather than me saying one more word

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let's just kick off the video

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and we'll come back at the end of the

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session for questions and i think john

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is with us so he'll address them

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directly all right thanks a lot and

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i am the program chair for the upcoming

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conference for the society for

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scientific exploration and the

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parapsychological association

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i'm also the executive director of the

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rhine research center in durham north

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carolina and co-founder of the rhine

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education center and the education chair

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or education director for the rhine

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education center that's sponsoring but

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you know you don't need to hear more

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about me

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i do research in parapsychology i work

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within the field and help to help to

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coordinate people to get together and

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that's what this conference is all about

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connections

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but i have a lot to talk about today i

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don't know what made me think i could

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cover healing pk and subtle energies all

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in one 30-minute talk i have a whole

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course on this that i teach at the

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wright education center but i'm going to

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try to go through quickly and give you

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guys an overview my goal today is to

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terminology and let you know what you

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might be hearing about in the conference

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because you're going to hear a lot about

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some of these topics so let's get

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started here and i'm going to start just

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by saying

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by talking about what is pk

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and what is energy healing and just give

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you a really quick introduction to the

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phenomena

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telekinesis pk my matter interaction all

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people use these words for so many

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different top for so many different for

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my purposes today they're all the same

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we're talking about one thing here

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you'll hear me using psychokinesis pk my

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matter i i don't use the term

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and was very popular when television was

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coming into vogue and the whole idea

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behind telekinesis

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the use of it the the concept is that

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broadcasting

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center that is affecting receiving units

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in different locations and that was the

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of our research that we've done and so i

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consider this a theory laden term

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something that contains some obsolete

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theory within it so i don't use that

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matter interaction so what is it

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micro pk and they sound really different

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and maybe causing that number to come up

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so you can interpret that as micro pk

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also but it's not strictly macro or

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micro pk

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it's somewhere in that yellow area there

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on the continuum

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so

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recognize the terms and recognize when

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you hear them this is what they mean

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but also realize

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they're kind of an artificial distinct

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let me move on to energy healing because

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like i said i got a lot to cover here um

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and i'm gonna just talk a little bit

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about what it is

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energy healing

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as determined we typically use the term

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it's the influence of a person or a

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number of people

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on another living thing

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whether it be people animals plants

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without using physical means to affect

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them

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and typically it's for the purposes of

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improving the health or well-being of an

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organism

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people use the term psychic healing

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energy healing or sometimes they just

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say healing

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all of these terms i'm gonna i'm

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grouping them together it's a different

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way that people approach the topic but

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they all involve

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one person or a group of people having

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an effect on another living thing

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oftentimes to try to improve the health

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or well-being of the organism

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early studies

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i'm not getting into a whole lot of

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research studies related to these topics

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there's a lot of information available

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but the early studies when they were

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doing research on healing

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healers would treat the patients

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do whatever they do to treat the

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patients usually they put their hands

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next to them sometimes they touch them

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sometimes they don't

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but the patient is examined before

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and after to determine if there's any

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change

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well it seems like a pretty obvious way

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to determine whether healing is

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occurring

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but the question comes up what is the

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source of the healing

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did that person just take some

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medication beforehand and then be

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treated by the healer were they treated

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by another

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medical professional before the healer

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came and did their work what is the

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source of the healing and did it come

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from the healer themselves

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or was the healer

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channeling energy or channeling some

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healing

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activity from another source

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this is all questions that needed to be

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answered and so the early studies were

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exploring this also the question came up

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how long does it take for healing to

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occur because if healing occurs within

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you know a a week or a few weeks

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sometimes you know there it can take

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months before the healing effect

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accumulates enough to happen but

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sometimes it can be very quick

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and very quick i mean it could happen

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overnight

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it could happen in a few hours it can

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happen in a few minutes

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and there's a guy in australia who some

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of you might know is charlie who

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actually performs healings within 20 to

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30 seconds oftentimes and it's very very

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um

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very effective what he does uh

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so

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early studies looked at

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later on when this was taken into the

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lab there are some really

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significant

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studies that were done

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the first i'm going to mention here was

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some work that was done in the 1960s by

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a man named bernard grad

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and this man really was a genius related

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to this just testing this phenomena so

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much that his studies seem commonplace

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now

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what he did is he took healers and had

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them treat water

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and then he used that water to water

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plants

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and tried to determine

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if the plants grew better when they were

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watered with what when they were treated

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with water from the healers

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or when they were watered with water

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that wasn't treated at all so he had a

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control group just regular water and an

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experimental group water treated by the

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healer

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and he took the plants as they grew and

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kept them in the same conditions

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and then said hey which ones grew better

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which are taller which have more leaves

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which have less uh

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less bugs or less disease associated

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with them and he found very clearly

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the water that was treated by the healer

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caused the plants grew better

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when they were watered using the water

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treated by the healer

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so that was that is actually a

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foundational study in almost all

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research and healing that's been done

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since then is based on this same

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paradigm

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it's a great model for testing healing

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in the 1970s a few years later

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watkins and watkins working at the ryden

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research center

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did a study with animals they were

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actually working with mice

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and

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anesthetized the mice

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and then he had healers trying to wake

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them up

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and so he would take mice that were

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anesthetized

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and put two mice next to each other have

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the healer treat one of them and see if

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it woke up more quickly than the other

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mice that wasn't being treated by the

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healer

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well it was kind of inconsistent

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sometimes the mouse that was being

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treated would wake up sometimes the

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other one wake up but overall

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the mouse that was being treated by the

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healer

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woke up more quickly than the mouse that

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wasn't being treated by the healer he

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also found a continuing effect that he

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called the linger effect

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that the location the mouse was being

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treated

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seemed to hold some energy in it

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because the next mouse that was placed

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there tended to wake up more quickly as

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well whether it was treated or not

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so it's a very interesting study done in

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the 1970s by watkins and watkins

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a little later a man named larry dossey

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who you might have heard of previously

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did a study related to intention and

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prayer

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to see if when people pray you know

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people often say i'll pray for you

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whenever someone is ill or you know i'll

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keep you in my mind well larry dossie

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actually did a study

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and he had people being prayed for and

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people using their intention and he

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tried to see is there an effect

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00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:28,160
of intention and prayer does it cause

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people to heal more quickly

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larry did find that it seemed that

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prayer and intention had an effect in a

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lob and encouraged people to perform to

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heal better but at the same time he also

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found it was really hard to get a

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control group because when someone is

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praying for a certain group they usually

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don't limit it to only the people you

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want to have in your study it also kind

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of affects other people that are in the

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same hospital in the same building and

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so the effects seem to

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spread out and more people got healed

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than he would have expected but hey

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that's not a bad thing it's just doesn't

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really help us to improve the concept

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and scientifically

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and then there are modern approaches to

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healing including uh some done by bill

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bankston

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bill is the president of the society for

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scientific exploration and you will

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definitely meet him at the conference if

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you come to the conference next week

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bill has been has developed a healing

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technique based on some work that he had

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done back in the 1990s and since

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about 2000 he's been publishing some

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incredible

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and amazing results he's gotten

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using this technique

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with mice

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what they use is they use a standard

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kind of mouse model they use for cancer

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treatments

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and typically you have a mouse and you

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would

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cells

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and then

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in normal

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research they would treat it with a

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chemotherapy drug and see how the mouse

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survives well bill did this exact same

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model except instead of using

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chemotherapy and drugs he used the

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healing technique

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and he's gotten incredible results the

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mice live

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they are healed of the cancer and they

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cannot be re-affected when they are

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re-injected with cancer later it's

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amazing information i can't go into it

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in detail but you know if you ever talk

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to bill

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ask him about it he talks about it all

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over the place and you'll definitely

519
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but the question comes to mind then is

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all healing the same when we talk about

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healing

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people use many different techniques

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you hear things like uh reiki

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you hear healing touch your hands on

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healing your qigong

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esoteric healing meant many different

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methods of healing here barbara brennan

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method you hear the bill benson method

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all of these are they but

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are they really different

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they're different techniques

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but

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is it all the same kind of is healing

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really the same thing or is it actually

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00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:12,240
different things occurring some people

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say that all healing is actually

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self-healing

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and that maybe the healer isn't actually

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00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:21,280
doing the healing themselves but they're

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causing some

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activity to occur that allows healing to

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to occur in another individual

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and the other question that comes up is

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healing a form of pk within the field of

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parapsychology you're going to hear and

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you'll hear this at the conference

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00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:36,400
you're many people

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00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:40,960
saying that healing is p is a form of pk

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it's not

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it is a common accepted uh

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00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:49,679
theory within the field but when we take

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00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:53,200
healers and we ask them to perform pk

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00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:55,200
most of them can't

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00:21:00,789 --> 00:20:58,400
we test them for pk and they can't do it

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00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:00,799
so how is it different

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00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:03,039
why can these healers do healing but

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00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:05,440
they can't do pk and if they're doing

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00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:07,360
this how can we say that pk and healing

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00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:08,559
are the same

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00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:10,480
we're going to talk about that in just a

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couple minutes

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but first i want to get into intention

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00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:16,320
remember i was talking at the beginning

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about pk and the idea that you know hey

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00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:20,880
you know i can't say that you

566
00:21:23,909 --> 00:21:22,720
purposely did this

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00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:23,919
well

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this is the whole point of intention

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00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:31,280
did you do that or did it just happen

570
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,039
so i'm going to give you some examples

571
00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,440
of intentional pk

572
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,200
remember that wheel we had within the

573
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:39,600
jar well spinning that wheel within the

574
00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:41,679
jar focusing on it and saying i want

575
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:43,440
that wheel to spin and causing it to

576
00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:44,480
spin

577
00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:47,520
is a form of intentional pk

578
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:49,280
you have a random number generator

579
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:52,320
that's causing numbers to just uh occur

580
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:54,559
ones and zeros at random completely

581
00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:56,400
random moments and trying to change it

582
00:22:00,870 --> 00:21:58,960
so that it's not as random getting a lot

583
00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:00,880
more ones than you would expect from

584
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:04,159
chance maybe getting a lot more zeros

585
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:06,000
if you're focusing on it that's

586
00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:08,640
intentional pk making changes to the

587
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:10,799
random number generator causing an

588
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:12,960
object to move whether it's a pencil on

589
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:15,440
a table or uh something or your picture

590
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:17,120
to fall off the wall focusing on

591
00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:20,080
something and causing it to move

592
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:22,480
is a form of intentional pk

593
00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:24,159
having a compass

594
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:25,760
where you have the needle on the compass

595
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:27,520
that's affected by magnetic fields and

596
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:30,080
causing that compass needle to move in

597
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:32,960
one direction and numb another

598
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:36,559
that is a form of intentional pk

599
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:38,720
now let me give you some examples of

600
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,840
unintentional pk

601
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:43,360
spinning a wheel changing a random

602
00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:44,720
number generally moving in objects

603
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:47,840
affecting the needle they're the same

604
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,159
because

605
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:52,400
it's not about the effect

606
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:55,200
but it's about the purpose

607
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:56,640
was the effect

608
00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:58,799
produced purposely

609
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:00,640
all of those things i just described

610
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:02,720
some people can focus

611
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:04,320
and you may see them happen when they

612
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:06,640
focus but it can also happen

613
00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:09,600
unintentionally or unconsciously so the

614
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:12,159
question is was the agent the person

615
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:14,799
who's causing it to occur aware

616
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,280
conscious of the activity aware that it

617
00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:19,360
was going to happen

618
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:21,200
and i have to mention that sometimes

619
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:23,280
these effects that i'm mentioning

620
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:25,200
they can be helpful

621
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:28,080
but sometimes they're not so helpful and

622
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:30,159
they can actually be disruptive and

623
00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:33,039
we'll catch up on that in a second too

624
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:34,720
unconscious pk

625
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:37,200
and unconscious healing

626
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:39,919
here's just a couple of examples

627
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:41,440
poltergeists

628
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:43,600
many people when they think of the term

629
00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:45,760
poltergeists they think of ghosts or

630
00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,880
spirits

631
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,559
that are disruptive that are throwing

632
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,279
things around the room they think of uh

633
00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:53,520
spirits that are making loud noises and

634
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:56,320
banging on things because poltergeist is

635
00:24:01,029 --> 00:23:58,480
actually ghosts so poltergeist is kind

636
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:01,039
of a noisy or disruptive ghost

637
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:04,080
and so the idea of a disruptive ghost is

638
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:06,000
what most people think of

639
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,080
but within the field of parapsychology

640
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:10,320
we actually use this term

641
00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:14,320
recurrent spontaneous psychokinesis

642
00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:22,070
that is spontaneous

643
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:24,559
it occurs spontaneously

644
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:27,840
and it happens repeatedly

645
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:29,840
we use this term to describe this

646
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:31,760
phenomena and

647
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,480
we

648
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:35,039
also consider since about the 1950s it

649
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:36,960
was around before then but since around

650
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:39,440
the 1950s this has been a pretty

651
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:41,919
accepted explanation for when we see

652
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,400
these phenomena occur and what phenomena

653
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:46,559
am i talking about someone's in a room

654
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:49,120
and objects start moving around them or

655
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:50,960
they're in a certain location and it

656
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,159
might be that

657
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:54,640
loud noises banging on the wall seems to

658
00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:55,520
occur

659
00:25:02,470 --> 00:24:58,960
it seems like there's a lot of

660
00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:02,480
unusual activity around someone that you

661
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,400
can't explain by they're not physically

662
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:06,480
doing anything but someone obviously has

663
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:08,799
an effect on things sometimes you might

664
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:11,200
see this that would cause things to

665
00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:12,720
break

666
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:14,159
uh things you know things fall off the

667
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:15,520
wall and break

668
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,159
uh but other times you may see them

669
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:20,320
actually doing helpful things

670
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,880
like you might find that that uh i had a

671
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:24,640
friend who was having these types of

672
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:26,480
things happen to her and what was

673
00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:29,120
happening is she would she was at a door

674
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:31,120
and she needed to drop her keys off to

675
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:33,039
get her car fixed and everything was

676
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:35,919
locked and she got frustrated because a

677
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:37,679
lot of times this comes from

678
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:39,120
emotions

679
00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:42,799
anxiety she got frustrated and the door

680
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:44,480
unlocked

681
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:49,120
and she was able to leave her keys

682
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:50,480
and then she called the police and said

683
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,919
hey this door is unlocked but it was

684
00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:54,240
locked beforehand so sometimes they can

685
00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,440
actually be helpful occurrences as well

686
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:59,200
but the idea that they come from an

687
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:00,960
agent

688
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:04,000
and that they are oftentimes unconscious

689
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:06,400
expressions of anxiety

690
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:07,600
sometimes

691
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:10,960
suppressed or repressed emotions

692
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:14,080
this is where the concept rspk comes

693
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:14,960
from

694
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:17,600
there are some newer interpretations of

695
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:19,600
poltergeists which you can hear at the

696
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:22,559
conference by a man named jerry salfin

697
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:24,640
brian williams and lloyd are back who

698
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:25,679
you're going to hear about a little

699
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:27,919
later this afternoon

700
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,240
in addition besides poltergeist

701
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:32,400
electrical interferences

702
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,480
having effects on electronics we all

703
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:36,320
carry phones with us these day well not

704
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,760
everybody but pretty much everybody has

705
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:39,600
a phone with them a lot of people work

706
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:41,919
on computers as you are right now and

707
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:44,000
some people notice that there's some

708
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,080
interference that occurs occasionally

709
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:48,320
they're not doing it on purpose

710
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:50,320
but i actually did a study in the lab a

711
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:52,480
couple of years ago where what we did is

712
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:55,840
we brought people in and we purposely

713
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,240
checked to see if their anxiety level

714
00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:00,640
would have an effect on creating errors

715
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:02,400
in the computer system not that they

716
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:03,840
would make more errors whenever they

717
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,679
were using a computer but that the

718
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:07,600
actual electronics would create would

719
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:10,880
have more errors in it and we found yeah

720
00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:12,799
when you're when people develop long

721
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:15,039
stronger eye anxiety

722
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,279
their electronics start acting up and

723
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:19,440
they don't work as well so the answer

724
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,640
here is

725
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:22,480
if you're seeing that happening take a

726
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:25,440
break walk away take a breath lean back

727
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:26,960
from your computer

728
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:29,919
walk for a while come on back

729
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:31,200
calm down

730
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:32,559
and see if it went away because

731
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:34,880
sometimes it does

732
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:37,360
so it's unconscious pk but unconscious

733
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:40,559
healing can also happen

734
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:43,600
spontaneous healings there are

735
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:44,720
you know

736
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:46,480
we talk about healing healing just

737
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:48,320
occurs

738
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:49,200
but

739
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:53,760
there are cases where uh for example

740
00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:56,320
there was a man a few years ago who had

741
00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:58,720
well a number of years ago he had cancer

742
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:00,880
and he was on the verge of death

743
00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:05,279
and he died he had and he literally

744
00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:07,520
physically died

745
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,200
but after

746
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:11,120
an hour or so

747
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:12,640
his heart started beating and he came

748
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:15,039
back to life again so he didn't really

749
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:17,919
die but he had a near-death experience

750
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:19,360
during that time

751
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:21,840
and when he was revived

752
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:24,320
the cancer that was in his body

753
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:27,200
disappeared over the next few days

754
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:29,039
he died

755
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:31,760
from complications related to the cancer

756
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,159
and within just a few days that cancer

757
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:36,559
resolved itself spontaneous healing

758
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:39,760
another man uh had arthritis throughout

759
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:41,360
his whole body that had developed over

760
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,399
years

761
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:44,480
he had a

762
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:49,760
a spontaneous healing

763
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,480
and the arthr arthritis disappeared

764
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:54,799
within just a few days

765
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:57,200
and he hasn't had it since

766
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:59,039
so spontaneously but it's not something

767
00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:00,799
he did consciously these people were not

768
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:02,559
especially the man who's

769
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,520
dead

770
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:05,520
he wasn't consciously trying to heal

771
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:08,880
himself but the healings occurred

772
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:10,320
and sometimes you'll see this with

773
00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:13,120
healers working with someone they'll be

774
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:14,399
working with someone and it'll be a

775
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:16,720
spontaneous healing event that'll occur

776
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:19,039
as well within the person

777
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,760
but

778
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:22,159
what about self-healing

779
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:23,200
well

780
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:25,520
if i cut my finger

781
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:26,880
my heel my

782
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:28,960
finger is going to start healing i'm not

783
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:31,120
thinking oh i have to heal my finger and

784
00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:33,279
focusing and consciously trying to make

785
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,880
my finger no it just happens naturally

786
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,159
to me

787
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,320
so this self-healing

788
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:42,480
is something that is also a form of

789
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:49,750
females this is another term you're

790
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:51,760
going to hear at the conference and

791
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,039
you'll hear this often times in

792
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:55,360
parapsychology distant mental influence

793
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:57,039
on living systems sometimes it's called

794
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:58,720
direct mental influence on living

795
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:00,399
systems

796
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:06,630
look at the terms okay

797
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,120
mental influence on living systems

798
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:11,840
somebody has an intention to affect a

799
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:14,799
living system from a distance

800
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:17,919
or directly affect a living system from

801
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,399
a distance

802
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:23,039
types of things that might be considered

803
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:25,840
a form of d mills

804
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:27,840
are remote healing

805
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:29,679
most healers

806
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:30,559
there

807
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:32,320
are many healers who put their hands on

808
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,520
you

809
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:35,200
and they touch people and they do their

810
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:36,559
healing that way but there are other

811
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,559
people who actually do their healing

812
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,320
from a distance they do it over the

813
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,720
phone they do it through

814
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:44,640
through zoom or skype

815
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:46,880
they do it from a distance sometimes

816
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:48,840
from thousands of miles

817
00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:52,240
away and it works as well as if they

818
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:53,919
were in the room

819
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:56,159
this would be an example of d mills

820
00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:57,919
affecting a living system from a

821
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:00,720
distance uh there was a man named vasily

822
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:03,039
of l.l vasilyev who worked in the soviet

823
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:07,279
union back in the 1920s through the 40s

824
00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:08,799
and then kind of got revived a little

825
00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:09,679
later

826
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:12,799
to do more work he was trying to see if

827
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:14,399
he could evoke

828
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:16,640
the hypnotic state

829
00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:18,799
in someone from a distance could you

830
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:21,440
hypnotize someone

831
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:22,320
from

832
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:25,600
a you know a mile away many miles away

833
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:28,080
could you affect their consciousness

834
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,960
their state of mind from a distance

835
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:32,880
and he apparently was starting to have

836
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:33,760
some

837
00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:36,240
success with this when about in the

838
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:38,880
1940s his research was defunded and he

839
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:41,360
lost his um he couldn't continue with it

840
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:42,880
until later he came back and started

841
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:44,880
doing something but at the same time in

842
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,720
the soviet union

843
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:48,480
there was also there was this book in

844
00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:50,559
the 1970s it was published called

845
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:52,240
psychic discoveries behind the iron

846
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:53,679
curtain

847
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,519
and in this book

848
00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:57,760
two researchers had been in the soviet

849
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:59,039
union

850
00:32:02,389 --> 00:32:00,559
and they had been

851
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:02,399
learning about the different research

852
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:03,440
that was going on related to

853
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:04,960
parapsychology and one of the things

854
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:07,360
they found was that there were people

855
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:09,919
trying to learn to cause physical damage

856
00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:12,559
to another person from a distance

857
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:15,200
to evoke a heart attack to maybe cause

858
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:18,320
confusion cause someone to become ill

859
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:21,120
and some of the purpose behind this

860
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:24,399
seemed to be related to espionage

861
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,559
trying to disrupt

862
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:28,559
negotiations

863
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:31,440
trying to physically harm someone from a

864
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:34,000
distance this is a very

865
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:36,080
disturbing thing

866
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,880
and when this book was published

867
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:41,039
and the people in the states found out

868
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:42,960
that this research was going on in the

869
00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:45,360
soviet union they the intelligence

870
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:48,000
agency in the state has a response to it

871
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:51,039
and that response ended up resulting in

872
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:52,880
the psychic spying program that

873
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:56,399
eventually was called project stargate

874
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:58,080
you're going to hear more about that

875
00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:59,760
from paul smith a little later this

876
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:01,279
afternoon as well

877
00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:03,760
but these are types of examples of demos

878
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:05,840
affecting live living systems from a

879
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:07,039
distance

880
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:08,960
some of you may have seen this movie

881
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:10,720
that came out a number of years ago

882
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:13,440
called men who steric goats well

883
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:14,640
that was

884
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:17,200
said to be loosely based on some work

885
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:19,120
that was being done in the states they

886
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:20,960
had these goats that are called fainting

887
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:25,279
ghosts goats they're goats not ghosts

888
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:27,200
goats animals

889
00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:29,200
they had fainting goats

890
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:31,279
and these goats whenever they get

891
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,480
excited or threatened they fall over as

892
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:36,320
if they're fainting

893
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:40,320
and they'd stay still so the idea behind

894
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:41,679
that movie was that they were having

895
00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:43,519
people stare at the ghosts and trying to

896
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:45,360
evoke that response

897
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:48,080
trying to affect the living system from

898
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:49,840
a distance

899
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:53,279
these are all examples of d mills so if

900
00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:56,320
you hear that term d mills realize we're

901
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:57,760
talking about

902
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:01,360
healing or disrupting living systems

903
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:04,240
from a distance

904
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:06,320
so then the question comes up how does

905
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:07,679
it all work

906
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,879
right

907
00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:10,320
how does this work

908
00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:12,879
how are we going to explain all this

909
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:15,040
healing and pk stuff we're working in

910
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,639
the laboratory is it something related

911
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,720
to quantum physics

912
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:21,119
are we finding some physical mechanism

913
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:23,520
some energies that we can use it or

914
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:24,879
maybe

915
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:27,679
perhaps it's aliens

916
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:30,159
well the truth is

917
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:31,919
we don't know

918
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,879
there are a lot of theories and i'm

919
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:36,720
mentioning this and i could go through

920
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:38,639
theories with you but it would take me

921
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,800
much longer than i have today

922
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,720
you're if you go to the conference

923
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:44,639
you'll hear a number of different

924
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:45,919
theories

925
00:34:51,349 --> 00:34:49,440
related about how pk works how subtle

926
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:51,359
energies are developed how healing

927
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:54,159
occurs there are a number of speakers

928
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:55,599
who are part of the conference who'll be

929
00:34:59,190 --> 00:34:57,760
talking about these facts

930
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:59,200
so

931
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:01,040
look for more information and other

932
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,720
sources

933
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:04,320
we really don't know how it works right

934
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:05,760
now

935
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:09,680
though because i just have a few minutes

936
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:10,800
left

937
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:12,560
and this is a really interesting and

938
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,960
important topic subtle energies are

939
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:16,800
energies of the human body let me first

940
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:18,640
talk about the energies of the human

941
00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:20,480
body because these are things that a lot

942
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:22,240
of people know about there are

943
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:25,599
electrical charges in our bodies

944
00:35:29,829 --> 00:35:28,160
our nervous system all of our nerves are

945
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:29,839
there's electrical signals and electro

946
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,599
impulses that cause our nerves to allow

947
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:33,599
us to feel allow us to move

948
00:35:38,589 --> 00:35:37,119
all of this is electrical in nature eegs

949
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,599
brain waves

950
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,400
electroencephalograms is what they're

951
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:42,400
called eegs

952
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:45,839
this is electrical activity in the brain

953
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:47,839
there are some chemical reactions in the

954
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:49,359
body and these chemical reactions

955
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:53,680
produce electrical charges occasionally

956
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:55,440
there are ways to measure this is not

957
00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:58,320
parapsychology this is biology or

958
00:36:02,230 --> 00:36:00,079
physics depending upon how you look at

959
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:02,240
it but or chemistry in some cases but

960
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:04,000
the the reason i'm mentioning because

961
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:04,880
these are

962
00:36:11,829 --> 00:36:09,680
very small charges really tiny

963
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:11,839
you notice this man in this picture here

964
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:14,000
and he has this cap on with all these

965
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:16,240
electrodes pressed really tightly

966
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:18,720
against his head that's to measure the

967
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:20,560
electrical activity that's occurring

968
00:36:25,829 --> 00:36:23,200
within his brain

969
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:25,839
you can see it but you have to push

970
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:28,079
really hard on the skin it has to be

971
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,839
pressed really tightly

972
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:31,200
and

973
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,520
it has to be very sensitive sensors

974
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:37,040
same thing with the nervous system you

975
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:39,280
can measure that against the skin and

976
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:40,320
you can measure the electrical

977
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:42,160
activities but if you start to move away

978
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:43,920
from the skin

979
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,640
even if you move a centimeter away which

980
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:49,200
is you know a little more about quarter

981
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:50,880
a quarter of an inch or a little more

982
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:52,560
third of an inch or something even if

983
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,760
you move a little bit away from the skin

984
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:57,760
you you don't see it at all you can't

985
00:37:01,510 --> 00:36:59,920
measure it well in most cases there are

986
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:01,520
special situations but i'll get into

987
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:03,440
that but

988
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:05,680
essentially these electrical charges can

989
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:08,079
only be measured inside the body or

990
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:11,119
directly on the skin

991
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:12,720
getting to getting far away from the

992
00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:14,400
body even as

993
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:16,079
more than a few millimeters away from

994
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:17,119
the body

995
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:18,880
you cannot measure these electrical

996
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:22,880
charges in normal situations

997
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:24,560
oh free radicals you know i don't have

998
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:25,920
time to get into free radicals but i

999
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:27,440
wanted to mention it here because free

1000
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:28,800
radicals are something you might hear

1001
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:31,359
about um they're related to a topic

1002
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:34,480
called grounding or earthing

1003
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,400
which is touching the ground with your

1004
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:38,400
physical body to allow these free

1005
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:40,240
radicals to travel i'm not going to go

1006
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:41,440
into details but there are some

1007
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:44,160
potential health benefits uh you might

1008
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:45,839
hear about this in the conference and

1009
00:37:48,829 --> 00:37:47,040
you can look it up if you want to know a

1010
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:48,839
little bit more about free

1011
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:51,040
radicals but what i do want to talk

1012
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,119
about is magnetic fields because people

1013
00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:54,880
often talk about healing or they talk

1014
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:56,079
about

1015
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:58,400
psychokinesis as if it's magnetic in

1016
00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:59,599
nature

1017
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:01,359
well within the body

1018
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,599
there's electrical currents

1019
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:05,520
anywhere there are electrical currents

1020
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:07,760
there is a magnetic field this is

1021
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:09,760
standard electrical engineering

1022
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:12,079
there's a magnetic field anytime there's

1023
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,960
an electric there's electricity flowing

1024
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,040
within the body we call this

1025
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:19,280
biomagnetism

1026
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,800
it's something where you can see that

1027
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:22,800
you can find there are certain magnetic

1028
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:25,280
properties to the body

1029
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:28,320
but again it can only be measured by

1030
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:31,200
very sensitive devices

1031
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:33,920
really it's not strong enough these

1032
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:35,680
again you move off the skin and you

1033
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:41,190
there are

1034
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,040
some instruments that can measure it but

1035
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:44,880
in order to measure the magnetic field

1036
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,119
or the electrical field from a more of a

1037
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:49,440
distance away from the body you have to

1038
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,640
have people

1039
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:52,480
in a completely shielded room that

1040
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:56,400
shields out all other magnetic fields

1041
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:59,119
all other electrical fields all the cell

1042
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:00,560
phone information

1043
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,400
information that's flowing around all

1044
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:04,880
the electronic noise that's around us

1045
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:06,240
you have to have a minifiring occasion

1046
00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:08,079
but not only in a faraday cage but it

1047
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:11,200
has to block out everything you can

1048
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:13,680
and keep it very very electronically and

1049
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:16,320
magnetically quiet

1050
00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:17,599
and then

1051
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:19,839
a distance from the body you can start

1052
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:22,880
to measure the very very

1053
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:29,589
so these are the energies of the body

1054
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:31,520
now why am i going into these well you

1055
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:33,359
often some of you may be familiar with

1056
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,520
this diagram it's and i apologize if

1057
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:37,359
it's so familiar that you are

1058
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:38,880
recognizing the organization it comes

1059
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:40,560
from i'm not criticizing the

1060
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:43,599
organization in any way but this

1061
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:44,800
diagram

1062
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:46,960
is supposed to represent the magnetic

1063
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:48,880
fields of the body and you notice

1064
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:50,800
there's a one centered around the heart

1065
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:53,599
and there's one that's a larger one that

1066
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:55,920
encompasses the whole body from over the

1067
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:58,400
top of the head down to the crown the

1068
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:00,560
base chakra we'll talk about chakras in

1069
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,520
a minute and this is a supposedly a

1070
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:05,200
diagram of the magnetic field of the

1071
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:06,560
body

1072
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,240
but as i mentioned we don't have any

1073
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:12,720
instruments to measure this

1074
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:15,839
so is there a human magnetic field yeah

1075
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:20,160
but it doesn't extend out to this level

1076
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:22,640
so i'm going to put this no it doesn't

1077
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:25,119
really happen but why do these people

1078
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,520
indicate this well what they do

1079
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:30,000
is they have other people

1080
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:32,160
who are sensitive

1081
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:34,640
to subtle energies what they call subtle

1082
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,599
energies and these people are able to

1083
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:39,440
detect

1084
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:42,480
fields around other people but are they

1085
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:45,359
actually feeling it as if it's a magnet

1086
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:47,119
magnetic field

1087
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:51,599
it really magnetic is it electrical as

1088
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:53,680
they some of people say

1089
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,760
can't measure it electrically so is it

1090
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:57,359
really electrical

1091
00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:59,200
or is it that they're detecting

1092
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,400
something

1093
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:03,119
that is not measurable using our current

1094
00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:05,200
technologies

1095
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:07,119
and they're considering that this is the

1096
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:12,790
there are some other things that you can

1097
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:14,480
measure around the body one of them is

1098
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:16,880
body temperature with infrared light

1099
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:19,040
galvanic skin response conductivity on

1100
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:22,160
the skin and then also bio photons this

1101
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:23,280
is something you're going to hear as

1102
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:25,359
well bio photons

1103
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,440
what are bio photons

1104
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:29,599
it's really simple actually

1105
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:32,079
bio photons are very low level

1106
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:34,800
ultraviolet light emissions from organic

1107
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:37,839
material or organic matter

1108
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:41,359
if any organic matter produces

1109
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:43,839
ultraviolet light this is something back

1110
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:46,240
in the 1970s man frame fritz pop

1111
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:47,680
popularized this it was actually

1112
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:49,760
discovered in the 20s but french pop

1113
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,319
talked about this in the 1970s and

1114
00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:54,960
everybody thought he was a little crazy

1115
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:56,319
but what

1116
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:01,280
has occurred since in the next 50 years

1117
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:04,000
up to the current time this has become

1118
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:06,319
no longer this crazy edge science but

1119
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:08,880
it's now biology it's being studied in

1120
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:12,560
upper level biology courses in uh japan

1121
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:16,480
in mit stanford italy all in germany all

1122
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:17,920
over the world there are people studying

1123
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:20,720
as an upper level biology why is this

1124
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:22,480
upper level this ultraviolet light

1125
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:25,119
occurring how is it occurring

1126
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:27,440
and what is its purpose

1127
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,839
it seems to vary with stress on

1128
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:31,440
organisms

1129
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:36,240
injured will produce more ultraviolet

1130
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:37,280
light

1131
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:40,480
but other organisms animals whenever

1132
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:42,240
they are sick

1133
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,000
will produce less ultraviolet light

1134
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:48,240
some some researchers have also looked

1135
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:50,480
at it in terms of cell communication

1136
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:52,240
could it be means within the body this

1137
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:53,920
is biology again this isn't

1138
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:56,880
parapsychology this is biology self

1139
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:59,200
communication causing the cells to

1140
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:00,960
communicate using light within the body

1141
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:03,520
and there's also studies about the brain

1142
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:05,680
and whether neurons are being triggered

1143
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:08,800
using ultraviolet light

1144
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,640
so this science has progressed a great

1145
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:12,880
deal especially within the last 15 or 20

1146
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:15,520
years it's made a lot of progress and at

1147
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:18,640
the rhine we have a bio energy lab and

1148
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:20,560
without going into the details of it

1149
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:22,800
i'll say we have a very dark room where

1150
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:25,280
we measure these very very low levels of

1151
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:27,440
light from people and we bring in people

1152
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:29,920
who are healers they say they're healers

1153
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:32,560
people who say who are martial artists

1154
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:34,560
or who do a lot of meditation and we try

1155
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:38,079
to see if they produce more biophotons

1156
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:41,119
during this activity and we find that

1157
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:43,760
yes we oftentimes see

1158
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:46,880
more biophotons ultraviolet light from

1159
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:48,640
them when they're performing their

1160
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:51,520
healing activities

1161
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:53,520
it's a lot more around bioenergy and

1162
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:56,560
biophotons but i want to move on to some

1163
00:44:02,309 --> 00:43:59,680
other examples of subtle energies that

1164
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,319
you might hear about and one is the aura

1165
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:04,079
a lot of people hear about biophotons

1166
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:05,520
and they say well okay you're seeing

1167
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:07,040
light around the body obviously that's

1168
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:09,520
the aura well the r is quite it's quite

1169
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:12,079
a different phenomenon

1170
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:14,000
the aura is light

1171
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:17,040
that people see around physical bodies

1172
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:18,640
and sometimes they see it in different

1173
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:20,000
colors

1174
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,200
ultraviolet light the biophotons are not

1175
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:25,920
visible you can't see them

1176
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:28,400
so the ultraviolet light really isn't

1177
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:31,119
the aura but the auras are ways that

1178
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:34,079
some people some healers oftentimes look

1179
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:35,520
at the body

1180
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:37,280
and they're able to see this

1181
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:39,280
light aura around it and they're able to

1182
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:41,040
see different disruptions in the light

1183
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:42,640
or different colors

1184
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,280
and those disruptions or those colors

1185
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:47,200
could indicate to them that a certain

1186
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:48,880
illness is occurring

1187
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:50,480
or that there's a certain level of

1188
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:53,200
health in that individual that's that

1189
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:55,280
diagram up there on the top right where

1190
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,280
you see the abcdef

1191
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,760
those are actually a way many

1192
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:01,440
uh healing

1193
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,960
or subtle energy practitioners ex say

1194
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:06,960
there are different bodies there is the

1195
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:09,040
physical body but there's also the

1196
00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:10,960
etherical body

1197
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:13,280
there's the emotional body there's the

1198
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,760
mental body and then there's the greater

1199
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:17,599
body that is related to our connection

1200
00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:21,119
to other people and our society and this

1201
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:22,640
so they see these different they are

1202
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,599
actually bodies that they see that are

1203
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,520
separated from each other like different

1204
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:28,800
levels

1205
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:31,119
and oftentimes they can work within

1206
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:33,599
these different levels some talk about

1207
00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:35,920
these as if they may be

1208
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:39,599
represented in the aura

1209
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:42,480
in addition that guy in the doing the

1210
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:43,920
lotus position with all those little

1211
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:46,720
dots on them those are representative of

1212
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:49,920
the chakras chakras are energy centers

1213
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:54,480
that many practices see within the body

1214
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,480
eastern medicine uses this a lot but

1215
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:58,319
there are many practices that use it

1216
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,960
there are typically seven chakras but it

1217
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:02,960
actually varies anywhere from like five

1218
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:06,160
to 140 or so chakras there's a lot of

1219
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:08,079
variation here one of the things i want

1220
00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:10,000
to say about chakras they are these

1221
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:12,240
energy centers and oftentimes healers

1222
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:15,119
will try to balance energies or move

1223
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:17,280
energies from these different chakras

1224
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,550
to improve health

1225
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,400
you're going to hear a lot about the

1226
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:28,800
chakras from margaret moga who's going

1227
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,319
to be speaking on the first night of the

1228
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,000
conference she'll be speaking about all

1229
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:34,240
these topics

1230
00:46:36,870 --> 00:46:35,280
i'm not going to go into aura

1231
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:36,880
photography or corellian photography

1232
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:39,040
because i don't have time today but i do

1233
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:41,440
want to mention one final

1234
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:44,480
topic here and that's the terms ki

1235
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:45,599
chi

1236
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:46,880
prana

1237
00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:49,599
it's the life force energy in the body

1238
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:51,280
you hear this from martial art artists

1239
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,680
eastern practitioners

1240
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:55,440
and besides this life force energy is

1241
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:57,680
what is what is present

1242
00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:59,680
in a living body but not present in a

1243
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,760
body that's not alive

1244
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:03,839
there are also meridians

1245
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:05,680
that flow through the body and you see

1246
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:07,839
that little diagram there with the red

1247
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,680
and blue on it

1248
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:11,760
they're not nerves and arteries but

1249
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:13,440
they're actually pathways that the

1250
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:15,520
energy might flow through and this is

1251
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:17,599
where acupuncture points might be

1252
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,240
connected uh herbalism might affect this

1253
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,400
martial artists often discuss the

1254
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:24,960
meridians and qi or ki

1255
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:27,359
so these are different terms you might

1256
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:28,160
hear

1257
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:29,760
they're related to

1258
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:54,630
welcome back everyone

1259
00:48:02,069 --> 00:48:00,230
john i will say there was a fascinating

1260
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:02,079
moment during your talk when you were

1261
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:03,280
talking about the electrical

1262
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,640
disturbances

1263
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:06,480
and suddenly i don't know if it was

1264
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:08,000
anybody else

1265
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:10,079
or if it was just for me

1266
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,280
suddenly everything cut out for a moment

1267
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:15,280
oh my god oh my god and then it came

1268
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:16,720
back

1269
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:17,680
okay

1270
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:20,480
somebody's somebody's testing us here

1271
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:27,589
i i have a test for that

1272
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,910
that was that was pretty clever if so if

1273
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:31,359
that was intentional that was clever so

1274
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:33,200
we've got about 10 minutes

1275
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:34,960
and thank you for pointing out that

1276
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:37,680
there is not just one question there are

1277
00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,760
a bunch so

1278
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:41,760
let's quickly whoo we've got a bunch

1279
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:43,760
here uh

1280
00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:46,559
good gracious

1281
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,079
i'm happy to talk about anything you

1282
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:50,480
want here um uh

1283
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:56,150
so the the first one i saw that's been

1284
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:58,960
there for a while right off the bat was

1285
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:01,119
it says uh

1286
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:03,839
let's see

1287
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:06,240
uh there was one from william mayer that

1288
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:08,000
said what you seem to be describing in

1289
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:10,240
your micro pk work sounds a lot like

1290
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:12,160
what was being done

1291
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:14,000
well you know what let's bring it up on

1292
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:15,200
the stage

1293
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,829
i'll let you and then

1294
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:21,760
at the pears lab are you essentially

1295
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:23,760
duplicating this research or is your

1296
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:27,200
program clearly distinct

1297
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:29,359
the pair lab was working with micro pk

1298
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:31,119
they were looking at uh random number

1299
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:32,960
generators or random event generators

1300
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,640
they called them and trying to see if

1301
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:36,960
people could intentionally affect

1302
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:39,920
uh a quantum activity within these

1303
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,720
random event generators they had created

1304
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:44,640
we're using the same tools

1305
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,520
we're we were using their exact random

1306
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:49,760
object vent generators using the same

1307
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:51,920
process there have been some newer ones

1308
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:53,520
that have been developed recently but

1309
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:55,440
we're using the same tools what they

1310
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:56,960
were doing at princeton which was an

1311
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:59,520
incredible program i mean it was amazing

1312
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:00,640
what they did

1313
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,680
they were doing a proof-oriented study

1314
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:05,280
does this happen

1315
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:07,520
and they had millions and millions of

1316
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,040
trials over over 20 25 years

1317
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:13,200
what we're trying to do is take this a

1318
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:15,200
step further yes we do have people

1319
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:17,359
affecting electronics maybe random

1320
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:19,440
number generators quantum events but

1321
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:20,800
we're trying to figure out

1322
00:50:25,910 --> 00:50:23,760
well can we learn about what it is

1323
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:25,920
can we understand can we do more process

1324
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,640
oriented we're taking the next step

1325
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:30,240
it happens

1326
00:50:33,190 --> 00:50:31,680
so that's where we're different from

1327
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:33,200
from what was being done in princeton

1328
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:34,880
princeton did great work to demonstrate

1329
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:37,440
it happens now we want to know well how

1330
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:39,359
does it happen and so this is what we've

1331
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:40,880
been working on

1332
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,040
understood so before we take any other

1333
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:45,760
questions one thank you that was

1334
00:50:49,589 --> 00:50:48,079
fantastic work and i know you prepared

1335
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:49,599
it for last year

1336
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:51,359
um and i know that you're doing you know

1337
00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:53,359
your convention again this year so you

1338
00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:55,359
have chaired it two years in a row so

1339
00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:57,680
thank you so much for this great work

1340
00:51:01,589 --> 00:50:59,599
um do you mind telling us a little bit

1341
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:01,599
about based on

1342
00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:03,839
you referenced a lot of things about

1343
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:05,599
what's going to happen for the coming

1344
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:06,960
year but that was for last year's

1345
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,640
conference do you have any thoughts

1346
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:10,400
about what's coming up for this year's

1347
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:12,079
conference that you want to mention so

1348
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:13,200
that

1349
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:15,359
you know people will be a little have

1350
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:17,839
that in in their minds as this is a prep

1351
00:51:20,309 --> 00:51:18,800
for that

1352
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,319
sure well

1353
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:22,960
the this conference it's wonderful it's

1354
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,720
a wonderful opportunity to really get to

1355
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,720
know people and get to spend time with

1356
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:28,640
people just like in here we have the

1357
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:30,160
opportunity to kind of network a little

1358
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:31,599
bit and get to be able to sit down with

1359
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:33,520
people and have conversations

1360
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:36,240
uh there's a this is a different format

1361
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:38,319
that you'll see for the conference it's

1362
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:41,119
using a format by healthy seminars

1363
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:42,720
and i know you've seen the link on how

1364
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:44,880
to sign up and i'm sure that it'll be

1365
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:46,960
posted if you don't see it right now

1366
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:48,800
but uh what you're what you'll see when

1367
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:50,319
you go there is you'll see a number of

1368
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:53,440
speaking we have i think about 26 28

1369
00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:56,559
speakers who are scheduled to give talks

1370
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:58,880
as well as some invited speakers but we

1371
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:01,599
also have a lot of what we're calling

1372
00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:05,040
brief video presentations and are just

1373
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,280
three to five minute videos

1374
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:09,599
on a number of different topics by

1375
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:10,800
presenters

1376
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:12,400
and so they'll be available for you to

1377
00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:14,960
just browse through go through three to

1378
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:17,040
five minutes on each of them get a sense

1379
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:20,000
of taste of the different research and

1380
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:22,079
also have an opportunity to contact the

1381
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:24,000
researchers or the presenters

1382
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:25,680
and speak to them

1383
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:27,280
and maybe have a little private

1384
00:52:31,109 --> 00:52:29,119
conference with them depending upon when

1385
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,119
they're available so this gives you some

1386
00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:33,440
other opportunities to learn about

1387
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,800
things and pick and choose what you're

1388
00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:36,160
interested in

1389
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:37,839
and when we actually

1390
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:39,200
compete

1391
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:40,559
i'm sorry mark

1392
00:52:44,309 --> 00:52:41,920
i'm so sorry i just meant especially in

1393
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:44,319
regards to the pk work like with just

1394
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,720
the presentation just in healing

1395
00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:48,160
uh some of those things what are those

1396
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:49,839
things that people can look forward to

1397
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:52,160
in the conference okay well yes i was

1398
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:53,440
just talking about the conference in

1399
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:55,200
general um

1400
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,720
so some of the presentations that are

1401
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:58,720
coming up we have a whole section on uh

1402
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:00,880
that's going to be related to apports

1403
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,960
kind of uh

1404
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:04,800
objects that just seem to appear out of

1405
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:06,800
nowhere uh we have a presenter who's

1406
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:08,000
going to be talking about that we have

1407
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:09,760
someone who's going to be talking about

1408
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:10,960
uh

1409
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:15,280
martial arts studio they've noticed in

1410
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:17,599
arch martial arts studios

1411
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:19,599
and how they've done research related to

1412
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:20,480
this

1413
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:23,520
uh wow besides the pk uh we also have

1414
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:24,559
people that are going to be talking

1415
00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:26,319
about the subtle energies that i

1416
00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:27,520
discussed

1417
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:29,119
uh we have presentations that are going

1418
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:31,680
to be about healing and different

1419
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:32,800
theories

1420
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,119
and models for healing

1421
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:37,440
we i mean some really really great

1422
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:39,040
researchers i'm sorry i didn't

1423
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:40,720
understand your question originally i

1424
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:43,040
apologize i wasn't clear on that uh

1425
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:45,040
that's absolutely fantastic and very

1426
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,280
exciting it's it kind of goes to what

1427
00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:49,280
i'm going to end with but not yet which

1428
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:51,920
is about the practical effects of a lot

1429
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:53,920
of this and how we can use it in society

1430
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:56,079
but we've got several questions that

1431
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:57,920
i've i've now seen are upvoted so let's

1432
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,160
go ahead and ask some of those i'm going

1433
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:02,640
to bring one from shane

1434
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:05,680
uh laridian i believe uh who's a psy

1435
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:08,240
experiencer and says what resources do

1436
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,000
you recommend for people interested in

1437
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:12,319
learning forms of energy healing

1438
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:16,480
so so my research is really uh not based

1439
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:20,720
on a specific form of healing

1440
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:23,359
and so i i know that there are there i

1441
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:24,880
mean you can find websites to talk about

1442
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:27,200
healing touch talk about reiki

1443
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:28,720
talk about um

1444
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:31,440
hands-on healing uh bill benson i know

1445
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:33,040
someone had asked a little bit about you

1446
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:34,319
know where can i find information about

1447
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:36,960
bill benson's work uh i i don't know the

1448
00:54:42,309 --> 00:54:39,760
specific website but if you look if you

1449
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:42,319
just search for bill bankston and

1450
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:44,960
healing on the web you can find his

1451
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:47,359
website and learn more about his method

1452
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:50,160
he has a really great i'm gonna i'm

1453
00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:52,000
gonna plug his technique because it's

1454
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:53,359
something that i've learned more

1455
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:54,960
recently with a group of people at the

1456
00:55:02,150 --> 00:54:58,160
rhine um and we've he has a book called

1457
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:02,160
uh the energy cure and he also has a

1458
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:06,000
learning program called hands-on healing

1459
00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:07,920
it takes a long time to learn

1460
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:09,760
you have to be patient when you're

1461
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:12,079
learning healing some people will try to

1462
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:13,440
um

1463
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:15,440
encourage you to learn reiki in a

1464
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:17,040
weekend

1465
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:19,200
you might learn some of the techniques

1466
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:22,559
but to really understand it and master

1467
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:24,240
the techniques you really have to spend

1468
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:27,040
time with it so i if you're looking for

1469
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:29,520
a way to learn about it

1470
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:33,599
be patient and take your time with it

1471
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:35,680
understood understood well uh you know

1472
00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:38,000
what's interesting when you mention that

1473
00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:40,400
uh it reminds me that if i remember

1474
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:41,390
correctly the

1475
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,319
[Music]

1476
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,480
institutes of

1477
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:48,720
health sorry what is the the federal

1478
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,960
agency that over sees a lot of these

1479
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:52,480
things nih

1480
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:55,440
thank you nih uh and i didn't realize

1481
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:57,119
this until recently

1482
00:56:01,829 --> 00:56:00,000
uh basically called the question

1483
00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:01,839
with a lot of the energy healing

1484
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,520
organizations and things like that and

1485
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,000
said all right reiki practitioners we're

1486
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,160
basically going to let the states

1487
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,400
essentially license you

1488
00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:12,160
and basically put you out of business if

1489
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:13,280
you don't come up with your own

1490
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:14,480
licensure

1491
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:17,680
and so uh someone i know pointed out

1492
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:19,520
that they banded together

1493
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:22,000
and came up with these organizations

1494
00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:23,599
that have essentially come out with

1495
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:25,359
things like this and so i didn't even

1496
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,359
know this existed when i

1497
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:29,200
took my reiki certification quite a

1498
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:31,119
while ago and i haven't done you know

1499
00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:32,720
full research into all of that but it's

1500
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:35,200
fascinating to see that that's

1501
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:36,960
even a thing

1502
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:39,119
so you have that you have all these

1503
00:56:43,829 --> 00:56:41,280
other types of uh

1504
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:43,839
of studies going on you know the emerald

1505
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:45,760
gate foundation is is doing a lot of

1506
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:47,200
things you know

1507
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:49,119
institute of noaa sciences did their

1508
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:50,160
energy

1509
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,240
healers pilot study and everything

1510
00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:54,640
you've been doing for years and years at

1511
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:57,680
rhyme so it's very exciting and people

1512
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:59,119
should honestly

1513
00:57:02,309 --> 00:57:00,160
come

1514
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:02,319
to the conference and see those videos

1515
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:03,599
you were talking about because they can

1516
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:05,119
see the snippets

1517
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:06,400
on something and then get those

1518
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,319
questions answered so let's wrap up in

1519
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:10,160
our final two minutes can you tell us a

1520
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:11,680
little bit about

1521
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:13,440
what are your thoughts about practical

1522
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:15,760
applications for things like

1523
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:18,079
the healing and the pk and the subtle

1524
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:19,440
energies what are some things that

1525
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,599
either you have used or you've seen or

1526
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:24,000
that you dream of as next steps in the

1527
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:24,960
next

1528
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:26,640
years for where we're going to take this

1529
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:28,079
as a society

1530
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:29,839
well you know mark that's an interesting

1531
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,680
question and i'm going to have to answer

1532
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:33,520
it this way

1533
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:34,799
we use it

1534
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:36,240
all the time

1535
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:38,480
we heal ourselves

1536
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:40,559
we we heal naturally i mean we have

1537
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:42,319
self-healing that occurs

1538
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:45,040
and there are people who can encourage

1539
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,680
that in other people and help them to

1540
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:50,000
develop their own healing uh or to

1541
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:51,839
facilitate an environment for it to

1542
00:57:55,829 --> 00:57:53,200
occur

1543
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:55,839
in terms of pk or mind matter

1544
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:56,960
interaction

1545
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:58,319
it happens

1546
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:00,400
and in fact the study i did recently

1547
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:02,960
says it happens unintentionally and it

1548
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:05,680
affects electronics unintentionally my

1549
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,480
thought is if it's affecting electronics

1550
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:10,319
from unintentional activity and

1551
00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:12,720
unintentional emotions imagine how it's

1552
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,319
affecting each how we're affecting each

1553
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:16,400
other

1554
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:19,359
being cautious and being aware

1555
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:21,280
that we are having an impact on the

1556
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:23,599
other people around us and other things

1557
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:25,680
it's important for us to keep this in

1558
00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:27,920
mind as we go through our normal lives

1559
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:30,400
all the time so i we don't have i don't

1560
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:32,400
see a way that we have to develop ways

1561
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:34,079
to apply this we are

1562
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:36,079
what we need to develop is knowledge and

1563
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:38,799
awareness of it uh one final thing i

1564
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:41,119
want to say before before we close up is

1565
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,720
you know when i did this uh you know a

1566
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:44,079
year ago and i

1567
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:47,119
you know most of what i said there is i

1568
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:49,680
i stand by everything that i said there

1569
00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:51,119
but there's an additional thing i

1570
00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:51,920
learned

1571
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:53,599
and that's that when you're doing

1572
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:56,000
healing or when you're doing any sort of

1573
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:57,839
activity like this

1574
00:59:02,549 --> 00:59:00,559
what seems to be most effective

1575
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:02,559
is doing it playfully

1576
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:04,960
enjoying it rather than taking it

1577
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:07,200
seriously and focusing it

1578
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:08,640
have fun with it

1579
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:12,400
because healing occurs much more easily

1580
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:15,040
when we are enjoying ourselves

1581
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:16,720
so that's where i would like to close

1582
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:18,160
today thanks mark

1583
00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:21,119
that's fantastic what a great way to end

1584
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:24,160
our session and thank you so much for

1585
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:26,400
all of the work you have done throughout

1586
00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:28,160
your whole life for everything you've

1587
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:30,640
contributed to the field to today's

1588
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,640
presentation to the

1589
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:34,240
conference that's coming up to all the

1590
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:36,880
work you're doing at the rhine just over

1591
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:38,960
everything you know so thank you so much

1592
00:59:43,349 --> 00:59:41,680
really appreciate it obviously more over

1593
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:43,359
the next couple weeks so

1594
00:59:47,109 --> 00:59:45,440
absolutely absolutely with that i think

1595
00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:47,119
we'll go ahead and close our session

1596
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:48,480
because we have another one that we're

1597
00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:50,319
going to immediately go into so let's

1598
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:52,240
end this session and start our next one